I suggest to everyone to be polite and cooperate with the police during a traffic stop. Even if the officer does something you disagree with, you will have your day in court. The side of the freeway or street in not the place or time to settle it. If you make things hard for the officer he has many options of ways to make things hard for you. If you are polite he also has options to make thing a little easier for you. Some of those options are what to do with your car.
The officer has a few choices on what to do with your car after you are arrested. He can let one of your passengers drive off with it, he can leave it where it is parked, he can tow it for storage, or he can impound it. There are rules about which he can do, but officers know how to get around the rules.
Letting a passenger take it. If there is someone present who is sober and licensed and you agree, the officer may let someone else drive it home. This is the best thing that could happen for you.
Leave it where it is. This likely won't happen because it could create a liability issue for the police. But, if it is on your property it could happen and would be beneficial for you.
Storage. If the vehicle or its contents are not needed for evidence the officer can have it towed for storage. This means it will be held just until you can get there to claim it. This is what happened to me. It cost me $200 for the privilege of storing it there for about 10 hours while I was in jail. The charge is by the day so if your vehicle was stored it is wise to head over there right away and get your vehicle out. And if you don't have the cash they will be glad to hold it for you while the daily fees keep adding up.
Impound. If the vehicle or its contents may be needed for evidence the vehicle can be impounded. Who decides if it may be needed for evidence? The officer who arrested you, which is why it is a good idea to be polite. Impound means the vehicle will be held until the police are done searching for evidence. This will be several days. Before you get your car back you need to get a release from the police. This is why it is important for you to determine if your car is being stored or impounded when the police take it. If it was impounded do not go to the storage yard without that release, it will be a wasted trip for you. Get the release first, then go to the yard to pick it up. I don't know how much it costs, but be prepared to pay hundreds of $$ in fees to get it back.
How to Survive a DUI arrest
Thursday, December 11, 2014
Surviving Jail
This post is about the first night in jail on the night of your arrest (not about going to jail if you are sentenced to a jail term). Once you are arrested in the field you will be brought to a police station where the official blood, breath, or urine sample will be collected. After this you will be booked into jail. This means they will take your fingerprints and your mugshot. Then you will be put in "jail." I make this distinction because you will not be put in real jail, but it is actually a drunk tank where the drunks are put to sleep it off. Still, it is a horrendous experience.
I am posting this mostly as a warning for anyone who has not gotten a DUI and is curious about what it is like. This was my experience getting booked into the Riverside, CA detention center. The first step in getting booked was to store my property that I won't need while in jail. This includes anything in my pockets and my cell phone. I was wearing a sweater and a t-shirt that night so they took my sweater and left me with just the t-shirt. They took my shoes and my socks. All items went into a large brown paper bag. It was cold that night and it was very cold in jail. With no socks or shoes on my feet became cold immediately. After my finger printing and mug shot I was put into the drunk tank. I did not know at the time that it was just a drunk tank so was not sure what to expect.
The tank was a large room with nothing in it. In the room there were already 3 other people and one other guy that was brought in at the same time as me. There was a phone on the wall that only allowed collect calls to be made. You don't know your friend's phone number because it's stored in your phone? Too bad. The floor is rubber coated and there is a stainless steel toilet with a sink built into the top of the toilet tank. There is no privacy for the toilet, it is in the middle of the wall with no partitions around it. There was a large puddle of urine around the toilet where others had missed the mark before. There was no place to sit or sleep, except on the floor - next to the puddle of urine.
Sleep was impossible for me, I was not drunk. I wish I would have been so I could have slept through it. I tried to lay down but the lights were very bright in the room. There was no pillow or anything you could use as a pillow. My feet were very cold. I unzipped my pants so I could pull them down enough to cover my feet to give my feet some warmth. I was very dehydrated, too thirsty to sleep.
There was no clock or windows to the outside that would give you a hint of what time it was. There was a large plexiglass window on the door and about every 15 minutes (I guess) a deputy would peer through the window, pull out some papers that were hanging near the door and make a mark on them. There was no indication of how long we had been in there or how long we were going to be in there. One of the other guys tried asking the deputy how much longer and never got an answer. None of us were drunk anymore. I was worried about getting to work. No one cared. We would be there as long as they kept us there and that was that.
Being in there with the strangers was not so bad. They were all in the same boat and shared their stories. All we cared about was getting out of there soon. There was no food given to us. The only water was what you could get from the sink on top of the toilet. It was disgustingly filthy and we all chose to be thirsty instead.
About 6 hours later they pulled all of us out from the tank except for one guy that had immigration problems. The rest of us went to a smaller cell which had a bench in it. There we were given our shoes and socks back. I was so glad to be able to keep my feet warm. I was also given my sweater back and that was a relief. The other guys had not come in with sweaters so they were just in their t-shirts feeling cold.
About 2 hours later they pulled us out one at a time and gave us a ticket to sign promising we would show up for our court date. My court date was 4 months away. I was also given a pink slip of paper that said my driver's license would be suspended in 30 days. With the paperwork complete we were put in an elevator that went to the lobby and were finally free.
Priority 1 for me was to get something to drink and something to eat. I found a Jack in the Box and went there and finally cured my thirst. Next I had to go get my truck from the storage yard. I was very late for work. I went to work with no sleep.
It was definitely not a fun experience. I was treated like an inconvenient and inconsequential speck of filth. The worst part was not knowing anything - how much longer? - what's next? when can we get some food? The deputies were just doing their job, and keeping us informed was not part of it. Our wants did not matter. I don't recommend the experience to anyone, and no matter what happens the rest of my life, I will not go through that again.
Sunday, August 5, 2012
Surviving the Blood or Breath Alcohol Test
All statements made in this post are just my opinion based on my experience. I
am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. If you need legal advice contact a
lawyer.
Like I said, if the officer tells you to do a field sobriety test then you are going to jail. The first expense you'll deal with is that your car will probably be towed. Then you will be driven to the county jail where an official alcohol test will be administered. In many counties, you can be physically forced to give a blood sample if you refuse to do the test. Plus, the DMV will automatically suspend your license for refusing to do the test. There are things a lawyer may be able to do to help if you refuse, but it is very risky and the consequences will be more severe than if you take the test and fail it. My suggestion is to cooperate and voluntarilly give the sample whether it be breath, blood, or urine.
Here is where you can do something to help your defense by paying close attention to the details. If they do a blood test on you, note who was present during the blood draw. Which officers were there? What is the name of the person sticking you with the needles? Look at the blood vials closely. Do they look like they were sealed properly? There may be a powder inside the vials, can you see it? What does it look like? How many vials of blood were filled? Did they do anything that may have contaminated the needle or the vials? This is all information that may help a lawyer. A lawyer's job is to find any defenses to counter the evidence presented against you. Having this kind of info may help prove one of your defenses.
I did a blood test, but if you are given a breath test, you will need similar details. The officer is supposed to monitor you for a certain amount of time before the breath test to see if you burp. Burping means there is gas in your system and that can affect the breath test. How long did the officer monitor you before the test was given? Was he distracted by anything such as writing things down or talking to someone? How many times did you blow in the tube? What was the reading of each blow? Did you burp during any of the blows? Did they offer you the chance to give a blood sample in addition to the breath test? If asked, my opinion is that you should say yes, as your lawyer can have the blood tested and use those results to show the tests are no good since they gave different results.
Note that I haven't said anything here about trying to beat the tests. You really can't. Just go through the process and make mental notes about who was there? What did they do? What time did they start? What time did they end? How did they do it? This is the start of preparing for your defense.
Like I said, if the officer tells you to do a field sobriety test then you are going to jail. The first expense you'll deal with is that your car will probably be towed. Then you will be driven to the county jail where an official alcohol test will be administered. In many counties, you can be physically forced to give a blood sample if you refuse to do the test. Plus, the DMV will automatically suspend your license for refusing to do the test. There are things a lawyer may be able to do to help if you refuse, but it is very risky and the consequences will be more severe than if you take the test and fail it. My suggestion is to cooperate and voluntarilly give the sample whether it be breath, blood, or urine.
Here is where you can do something to help your defense by paying close attention to the details. If they do a blood test on you, note who was present during the blood draw. Which officers were there? What is the name of the person sticking you with the needles? Look at the blood vials closely. Do they look like they were sealed properly? There may be a powder inside the vials, can you see it? What does it look like? How many vials of blood were filled? Did they do anything that may have contaminated the needle or the vials? This is all information that may help a lawyer. A lawyer's job is to find any defenses to counter the evidence presented against you. Having this kind of info may help prove one of your defenses.
I did a blood test, but if you are given a breath test, you will need similar details. The officer is supposed to monitor you for a certain amount of time before the breath test to see if you burp. Burping means there is gas in your system and that can affect the breath test. How long did the officer monitor you before the test was given? Was he distracted by anything such as writing things down or talking to someone? How many times did you blow in the tube? What was the reading of each blow? Did you burp during any of the blows? Did they offer you the chance to give a blood sample in addition to the breath test? If asked, my opinion is that you should say yes, as your lawyer can have the blood tested and use those results to show the tests are no good since they gave different results.
Note that I haven't said anything here about trying to beat the tests. You really can't. Just go through the process and make mental notes about who was there? What did they do? What time did they start? What time did they end? How did they do it? This is the start of preparing for your defense.
Friday, July 27, 2012
The traffic stop
All statements made in this post are just my opinion based on my experience. I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. If you need legal advice contact a lawyer.
There are many reasons the police may contact you. The obvious one is if you break a traffic law such as speeding. Many people think, "As long as I don't speed and follow all the rules they'll never stop me."
The problem with that thinking is that there are many other reasons the police may contact you:
I do have a couple friends who have told me they have talked their way out of being arrested after hearing this question. But my opinion is that when a police officer asks you this he has already decided to take you to jail based on smelling drinks on your breath, slurred speech, or red eyes. Everything he does from here on out is just to get more evidence against you.
So how do you answer the question? If you really haven't had anything to drink that night then say no. But if you really have had something to drink, saying no may cause problems for you for lying to the officer. At the DMV hearing evidence that you lied will be taken into consideration. When negotiating with the District Attorney the fact that you lied may hinder your request for a lesser sentence.
So you shouldn't say no in that case. But if you say yes that gives the officer a good reason to take you through the field sobriety tests (which, again, is just to get more evidence against you). So the only sensible answer you can give is to say, "I'd rather not answer any questions." You will surely go to jail now, but the only evidence against you will be smell, slurred speech, red eyes, and what he observed of your driving patterns. In my case I said yes, because I knew my speech was slurred and I thought I could convince him that I only had 2 drinks. I think most people think they can talk their way out of it, so they're honest enough to say yes, but are dishonest about how much they drank. You'll hear stories from people who say they talked their way out of it, but it didn't work for me.
After I said yes, the officer asked me to step out and go stand in front of his police car. Remember, this was a CHP officer so your experience may vary when dealing with other departments. The walk you take will be evidence against you too. He will say that you walked with an "unsteady gait." Next, the officer conducted an "interview" where he asked a bunch of questions called "pre field sobriety test (FST) questions." Remember that lying on any question may be used against you later. But the truth can be used against you too, here's how they plan to use those questions against you:
Having finished the questions the officer will move on to the FST. In my case the first test attempted was the HGN test. This is the one where you follow an object with your eyes. However, the officer did not say "OK, we're going to do the tests now." Throughout the "interview" he was giving directions about where and how to stand. He simply continued these instructions to stand here, then stand there, put your feet here, put your arms there, look here, look there, stand there, put your feet like this, next thing I knew, I had completed the HGN test and was starting the Romberg Balance test even though I knew it was a bad idea to do any of the tests.
Which brings me to the field sobriety tests themselves. Again, they are only used to gather more evidence against you. If you fail, you fail. If you pass, it was "inconclusive." They don't need any of the tests to arrest you. They can arrest you only on your speech, smell, or any other indication that you are above .08% or under the influence. The best thing you can do for your defense is to say "I'd rather not do any tests." And yes, you will surely go to jail then, but I believe you'll be in a better position than if you had given them all the evidence they want.
The only questions that I think are worth answering are the ones about your identity. They can't release you from jail until they are sure who you are and don't have any warrants and are not in the U.S. illegally. So I recommend answering questions about your name, social security number, place of birth, etc. but nothing else.
Bottom line, if you are asked questions about drinking and you have been drinking, I think the best thing you can do is don't answer any questions and don't do any of the tests. Everything I said was truly used against me.
There are many reasons the police may contact you. The obvious one is if you break a traffic law such as speeding. Many people think, "As long as I don't speed and follow all the rules they'll never stop me."
The problem with that thinking is that there are many other reasons the police may contact you:
- DUI checkpoints
- If someone else hits you
- If you hit someone else
- If your car breaks down
- etc.
I do have a couple friends who have told me they have talked their way out of being arrested after hearing this question. But my opinion is that when a police officer asks you this he has already decided to take you to jail based on smelling drinks on your breath, slurred speech, or red eyes. Everything he does from here on out is just to get more evidence against you.
So how do you answer the question? If you really haven't had anything to drink that night then say no. But if you really have had something to drink, saying no may cause problems for you for lying to the officer. At the DMV hearing evidence that you lied will be taken into consideration. When negotiating with the District Attorney the fact that you lied may hinder your request for a lesser sentence.
So you shouldn't say no in that case. But if you say yes that gives the officer a good reason to take you through the field sobriety tests (which, again, is just to get more evidence against you). So the only sensible answer you can give is to say, "I'd rather not answer any questions." You will surely go to jail now, but the only evidence against you will be smell, slurred speech, red eyes, and what he observed of your driving patterns. In my case I said yes, because I knew my speech was slurred and I thought I could convince him that I only had 2 drinks. I think most people think they can talk their way out of it, so they're honest enough to say yes, but are dishonest about how much they drank. You'll hear stories from people who say they talked their way out of it, but it didn't work for me.
After I said yes, the officer asked me to step out and go stand in front of his police car. Remember, this was a CHP officer so your experience may vary when dealing with other departments. The walk you take will be evidence against you too. He will say that you walked with an "unsteady gait." Next, the officer conducted an "interview" where he asked a bunch of questions called "pre field sobriety test (FST) questions." Remember that lying on any question may be used against you later. But the truth can be used against you too, here's how they plan to use those questions against you:
- Are you sick or injured? If you say no then you can't say the FST's were invalid because you were injured.
- Do you have any physical impairments? If no, now you can't say you were unable to do the tests correctly.
- When did you last sleep? Now you can't say you were sleep deprived.
- When did you last eat? What did you eat? Any answer to these question limits your ability to explain away the alcohol content test results.
- Were you driving the vehicle? They'll ask you this even if you were the only one in the vehicle. It appears that many people get out of trouble at trial by saying "they didn't prove that I was the one driving" so the officer will ask this question and list all kinds of things on the report that can prove you were the one driving (seated in driver's seat with seat belt on, engine running, registered owner of the vehicle, etc.).
- Where did you start driving? If at a bar, that doesn't help your case.
- What have you been drinking? How much? This is where you'll feel the need to fib, which can cost you in the end.
- What time did you stop drinking? Any answer to these question limits your ability to explain away the alcohol content test results.
- Do you feel the effects of the drinks? If yes, then you are admitting to being under the influence of the drinks.
- Have you taken any medicine or drugs? If no, you lose another explanation for how alcohol got into your system.
- Do you feel the effects of the medicine? If no, now you can't claim the medicine affected your performance on the FST's.
- Have you had surgery performed recently? If no, now you can't say you were unable to do the tests correctly.
Having finished the questions the officer will move on to the FST. In my case the first test attempted was the HGN test. This is the one where you follow an object with your eyes. However, the officer did not say "OK, we're going to do the tests now." Throughout the "interview" he was giving directions about where and how to stand. He simply continued these instructions to stand here, then stand there, put your feet here, put your arms there, look here, look there, stand there, put your feet like this, next thing I knew, I had completed the HGN test and was starting the Romberg Balance test even though I knew it was a bad idea to do any of the tests.
Which brings me to the field sobriety tests themselves. Again, they are only used to gather more evidence against you. If you fail, you fail. If you pass, it was "inconclusive." They don't need any of the tests to arrest you. They can arrest you only on your speech, smell, or any other indication that you are above .08% or under the influence. The best thing you can do for your defense is to say "I'd rather not do any tests." And yes, you will surely go to jail then, but I believe you'll be in a better position than if you had given them all the evidence they want.
The only questions that I think are worth answering are the ones about your identity. They can't release you from jail until they are sure who you are and don't have any warrants and are not in the U.S. illegally. So I recommend answering questions about your name, social security number, place of birth, etc. but nothing else.
Bottom line, if you are asked questions about drinking and you have been drinking, I think the best thing you can do is don't answer any questions and don't do any of the tests. Everything I said was truly used against me.
Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Here's my story, sad but true
First of all, it can be dangerous to drink and drive. I don't encourage it. Before going out to drink you should have a plan for how you're going to get home and stick to it. I did have a plan, I did not stick to it.
I went to a bar where I've been hanging out for years, about 30 minutes from my house. My plan was simple and had always worked until that night. I would get there around 9pm, drink 2 drinks between then and 11pm, then switch to drinking sodas the rest of the night. By 2am I would be legal to drive. That was the plan.
Here's how the plan fell apart. First, they started a new waitress there that night who was fast with bringing me my drinks. This was in contrast to the previous waitress who would forget about my order and I would wait 30 minutes before getting my drinks. So I got there and drank my first drink right away. As soon as I set down my empty glass the new waitress came right over and said "Can I get you another one?" How can I say no? And 2 seconds later my new drink was on the table. I finished that one and she was right there again, "Can I get you another one?" I looked at the clock and it was barely 10pm. Four hours to go, I guess there's enough time for one more. And a few minutes later there was time for one more again. I'm not blaming the waitress, but my plan went out the window just like that. And that's the first thing that went wrong.
The second thing that went wrong was that the DJ at this bar is a girl with a real pretty smile. I'd been working for months to get her to let me take her out. She never said yes, but never said no either. So that night I was trying to work up some interest again. And right after that fourth drink came out some thug-looking guy walks into the bar goes up to her, grabs her, and kisses her, and she's kissing him back. And they're 2 feet in front of my face. I knew she'd hung out with this guy a couple times but apparently I didn't know the whole story. And this thug is the reason I can't take her out?? That was enough to make me pay my bill and get the hell out of there. I walked out, got into my car and started driving home. I knew I had alcohol in my system, but I also felt OK and was driving fine. However, the plan was cold and stiff by now.
A few minutes later I was on the freeway on the way home and I get a text message. It's from her. "Where'd you go?" How do I answer this in a text? I guess I better say something, but what? Maybe I should just ignore it? I can't think. Maybe I better pull over and think about it before I answer.
So I pulled over as far as I could on the side of the freeway. I sat there thinking about what to say and a pair of headlights pulled up behind me. I knew right away it was the CHP, and that my goose was cooked.
"What's going on?" said the flashlight in my face.
"I just pulled over to send a text. I didn't want to be texting while I was driving," I slurred while trying not to slur.
"Well, I appreciate that. Have you had anything to drink tonight?"
You can guess how the rest went. But, so you have some information, let me tell you that I answered all of his questions and mostly honestly. I did say that I had some drinks earlier. I did know enough not to do any field sobriety tests, yet it was noted in the report that I failed the one where you follow the finger with your eyes. I was arrested and blood was taken at the jail and the report said I was at 0.10% (point-one-o). My car was towed and put in storage, and I spent 8 hours in jail. When I got out I had to take a taxi over to the storage yard to get my truck out, that alone was over $200. And that's only the beginning of the expenses.
Once out of jail, the questions in my head were going a million miles an hour. I hope reading my story will convince some that a simple plan is not enough and hopefully you'll avoid going through a DUI arrest. But if it's too late now, then you have some of the same questions going through your head that I did. In future posts I'll give you my opinion on those questions.
IMPORTANT NOTE: I am not an attorney and nothing I write about should be considered legal advice. This is merely a layman's opinion based on my recollection of my experiences for informational purposes only. If you need legal advice you should consult an attorney.
I went to a bar where I've been hanging out for years, about 30 minutes from my house. My plan was simple and had always worked until that night. I would get there around 9pm, drink 2 drinks between then and 11pm, then switch to drinking sodas the rest of the night. By 2am I would be legal to drive. That was the plan.
Here's how the plan fell apart. First, they started a new waitress there that night who was fast with bringing me my drinks. This was in contrast to the previous waitress who would forget about my order and I would wait 30 minutes before getting my drinks. So I got there and drank my first drink right away. As soon as I set down my empty glass the new waitress came right over and said "Can I get you another one?" How can I say no? And 2 seconds later my new drink was on the table. I finished that one and she was right there again, "Can I get you another one?" I looked at the clock and it was barely 10pm. Four hours to go, I guess there's enough time for one more. And a few minutes later there was time for one more again. I'm not blaming the waitress, but my plan went out the window just like that. And that's the first thing that went wrong.
The second thing that went wrong was that the DJ at this bar is a girl with a real pretty smile. I'd been working for months to get her to let me take her out. She never said yes, but never said no either. So that night I was trying to work up some interest again. And right after that fourth drink came out some thug-looking guy walks into the bar goes up to her, grabs her, and kisses her, and she's kissing him back. And they're 2 feet in front of my face. I knew she'd hung out with this guy a couple times but apparently I didn't know the whole story. And this thug is the reason I can't take her out?? That was enough to make me pay my bill and get the hell out of there. I walked out, got into my car and started driving home. I knew I had alcohol in my system, but I also felt OK and was driving fine. However, the plan was cold and stiff by now.
A few minutes later I was on the freeway on the way home and I get a text message. It's from her. "Where'd you go?" How do I answer this in a text? I guess I better say something, but what? Maybe I should just ignore it? I can't think. Maybe I better pull over and think about it before I answer.
So I pulled over as far as I could on the side of the freeway. I sat there thinking about what to say and a pair of headlights pulled up behind me. I knew right away it was the CHP, and that my goose was cooked.
"What's going on?" said the flashlight in my face.
"I just pulled over to send a text. I didn't want to be texting while I was driving," I slurred while trying not to slur.
"Well, I appreciate that. Have you had anything to drink tonight?"
You can guess how the rest went. But, so you have some information, let me tell you that I answered all of his questions and mostly honestly. I did say that I had some drinks earlier. I did know enough not to do any field sobriety tests, yet it was noted in the report that I failed the one where you follow the finger with your eyes. I was arrested and blood was taken at the jail and the report said I was at 0.10% (point-one-o). My car was towed and put in storage, and I spent 8 hours in jail. When I got out I had to take a taxi over to the storage yard to get my truck out, that alone was over $200. And that's only the beginning of the expenses.
Once out of jail, the questions in my head were going a million miles an hour. I hope reading my story will convince some that a simple plan is not enough and hopefully you'll avoid going through a DUI arrest. But if it's too late now, then you have some of the same questions going through your head that I did. In future posts I'll give you my opinion on those questions.
IMPORTANT NOTE: I am not an attorney and nothing I write about should be considered legal advice. This is merely a layman's opinion based on my recollection of my experiences for informational purposes only. If you need legal advice you should consult an attorney.
About
There are many questions that came to my mind when I was arrested for DUI in California in 2011. Many of the answers I found online to my questions were from lawyers. Let's face it, a lawyer is always looking for clients so you have to be a bit skeptical about what they say. I did much of my own research and have now survived through the process. I will put this blog together as a sort of F.A.Q. for DUI arrests based on my experience to help anyone else who may have the same questions I did about what to expect after being arrested.
Note that my arrest was in Riverside County in California and your experience will vary from county to county (depends on the agenda of that county's District Attorney).
IMPORTANT NOTE: I am not an attorney and nothing I write about should be considered legal advice. This is merely a layman's opinion based on my recollection of my experiences for informational purposes only. If you need legal advice you should consult an attorney.
Note that my arrest was in Riverside County in California and your experience will vary from county to county (depends on the agenda of that county's District Attorney).
IMPORTANT NOTE: I am not an attorney and nothing I write about should be considered legal advice. This is merely a layman's opinion based on my recollection of my experiences for informational purposes only. If you need legal advice you should consult an attorney.
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